Sannyas Anyone?

Satrup, yes and no, for some people it is alive, for others it feels dead. I tend to lean towards Pragoya, especially after all that has happened after Osho left the body. If you want to know more simply check out Amrito, Jayesh and few others who told the rest of the sannyasins about an inner circle. I have never heard Osho speak about any inner circle, and there have been funny games going on. Such as the fact that Osho's paintings and his ashes are not even in Poona, as far as I know the stuff has been held in Switzerland for some time, and then got transferred to the new headquarter of some businessmen in New York, who have taken Osho's texts and taken them out of context with heavy editing. Did you know that you can hardly buy original books of Osho anymore. You have to look really hard to find some. All his speaking has been falsified, new books with Bullshit titles like "Osho, a spiritually incorrect Mystic" have appeared, with interpretations of what Osho was, and the funny thing, they are creating a new religion . When Osho was asked about that I have heard him say that there will be undoubtedly a religion after his death, I am not surprised. So yes, I don't go to see a video of an Osho lecture anymore, unless it is an old original one. You can find out more about this stuff here:

www.oshofriendsinternational.com/o...sp

Yes, something of his always remains in the video's they cannot fully erase that, they sure try though.

For anyone who would like to have a real "whiff of what it was like in the days when the master was in the body I very much recommend Veena's book. She seems to manage to bring these days back to us like they are here and now. The title is: A Seam For The Master and you can find it here:

www.treetongue.co.uk/seam.html

I still cherish this book very much. Truly Jewls...

Upavas

Satrup.

Who is there to speak for? Self, what is it?

But you are right, the ting is not dead, the thing is not alive. In fact it never excisted. Juicily it can never be anymore, it's not there. We might have memories from juicy times. It is gone, not dead, but gone.

Sannyas Anyone? Who would you follow, who is there to have a living relation with? In fact it wasn't there in the old days. It was fake. We followed a no-one. So to say, one can do that now also! There is nothing there.

The thing said no-thing, so there is no-thing to do or any rule to follow. Mail for a mala, collect it and wear it under your cloths if some fool sais so. The thing won't mind, it is gone!

He lives on Google!!! On Yahoo they say, no he is dead say others, it was never there!!!

The thing, Osho, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, is gone, it was nice but now he's gone...

An other suitcase in an other hall,
Take your picture from an other wall,
Where are we going to? Don't ask any more...
(Evita...:-)

As someone who got his mala in the mail a little over 26 years ago... Feb. 22, 1981.

I'd have to conclude it's mostly just the gibberish in your head doing the talking.
Since you can offer no evidence to support your dismissive statements.

Oder a mala and be happy.

where brother?

In doubt? Say YES!!! (in garimo, say no...:-)

www.youtube.com/watch

Love
P.

Hi Krishna, I am just quoting on what is said on the website
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"but with an absolute condition, categorical condition: and that condition is awareness, meditation” – as Osho describes sannyas "
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I never knew awareness to be a condition. And I never heard OSHO describe sannyas like that. NEVER EVER! and I am very careful when I use the word never! I am not speaking against awareness. I am referring to it being made a condition.
The "resort" as you are referring to it has always been ok with money. I have lived there long enough to know.
I do not doubt that maintaining publishing rights is a difficult thing to do, especially not in 220 countries or more. It is how they are going about the whole thing.
Facts are:
Osho's ashes are not in his Samadhi.
His words are being tampered with although he gave very precise instructions to never whatsoever do anything like that.
I know that Buddha Hall meant a lot to many people who were there who did not want to see it destroyed.

As to taking sannyas from a website. I think it is great. Just the whole anonimity business seems to be another idea of Swami Deva Coconut!
I have never heard OSHO refuse sannyas to anyone, and I think he would have loved the internet idea. However, the other option should also be there. Why only that way and not the old way as well?

Many centers, including the one in India where Ma Yoga Neelam did go through all kinds of trouble and expenditure including numerous courtcases that are going on in NYC at this very momento be able to use the name OSHO. Neelam was Osho's ambassador in Poona when he was still alive and had Osho's trust! The fact that many old sannyasins are kicked out of the Ashram does not help either...

Also Dheeraj who had precise instructions from Osho himself, as to the deelopment of his bodywork and to the pyramids which were built for excactly that work (Osho Tibetan Pulsing Healing) and who built up energy in the pyramids was told by Jayesh and co. to make it into a nightclub, there was very deep bodywork going that I experienced myself in the days... and that energy fied was pretty much reduced to a nightclub. And these were not OSHO's instructions. It got so too much that Dheeraj, who was a member of the so called "Inner Circle" had to leave Poona, and with him most others as well. He was not allowed to use the name OSHO, as he was forbidden by Jayesh, Amrito and co. although his instructions that he followed came from OSHO himself.

There is always the thing with the Hollywood gang, hardly anyone seems to know what happened there.

The there are the circumstances of Viveks death, no celebration and everything. I have heard that she was murdered in Lao Tzu garden.
All the Lao Tzu guards were told to leave that day. I know because I myself was a rounder-guard at that time.

Protecting such a large legacy is one thing, falsifying it , taking it out of context, removing everything that sannyasins lovingly created, like all of Osho's pictures that do not seem to be availlable anymore, his paintings and all the other stuff that pretty much belonged to all of us is simply bullshit.

I am not judging them, I am simply stating what they are doing, because I am aware of it. And with me there are many others who seem to feel the same way, as a matter of fact thousands!
And as far as appealing to public is concerned, OSHO made himself most unappealing to the public wherever he went, he spoke the truth about them wherever he went, which is what ultimately got him kicked out of the USA, poisoned and denied entry to 21 countries...

I have always loved him for doing excactly that.

The whole idea of making something appealing to the public is to sell it. BUSINESS. And that was never the idea. As a matter of fact, all these money things always had a knack for working out beautifully, especially with trust. Why now a business?
And who gets the money? And why?


Love Upavas